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ceiling issue. we should do it now before we run out of money. the problem here is you seem to have those same members of the ted cruz conference who don't care about government. in fact, if you talk to some of them, they will tell you they came here to try to destroy government. we could not allow that to happen. i put out a plea to my moderate republican friends, it is time for you to stand up in the fight just like they are fighting. >> congressman, great to see you. thank for your time and being patient as we've been rolling with punches this hour. thank you. you've been tweeting us at the #don'tshutmedown. back with responses after the break. don't go anywhere. >> my heart and prayers go out to those 800,000 or so government workers who are on furlough. i pray god keeps you and your family. but my anger goes out to the republican congress. there are people who work very hard and still only able to live check to check. people who deserve health care and people who vote. i have you to remember th
ceiling issue. we should do it now before we run out of money. the problem here is you seem to have those same members of the ted cruz conference who don't care about government. in fact, if you talk to some of them, they will tell you they came here to try to destroy government. we could not allow that to happen. i put out a plea to my moderate republican friends, it is time for you to stand up in the fight just like they are fighting. >> congressman, great to see you. thank for your...
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but now we have the debt ceiling issue there and the prospect or the potential for a default may be that changing the situation anticipate tests the holders of treasury's nerves. we watch this carefully but no immediate reaction really in the fixed income markets. i want to move you on. there is another story that, again, people are watching closely in these markets and that's whether the treasury is able to prioritize its payments and just make sure bond holders get their coupons paid. perhaps ahead of social security payments or to government workers. there is an argument going on, jack lew at the treasury says, yes, we can prioritize to a certain extent. moody's says i'm not sure if your system will work effecti effectively to do that that's the current state taking place over what payments could be maid if this goes over the cliff. >> secures the credit if you pay the bonds but political ily it's tough if you don't send out the social security checks so it's a real tricky balance. i just noticed the stock futures are positive. either the global market reaction, what was it overheight
but now we have the debt ceiling issue there and the prospect or the potential for a default may be that changing the situation anticipate tests the holders of treasury's nerves. we watch this carefully but no immediate reaction really in the fixed income markets. i want to move you on. there is another story that, again, people are watching closely in these markets and that's whether the treasury is able to prioritize its payments and just make sure bond holders get their coupons paid. perhaps...
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we're in, shutdown mode, fastly and quickly approaching the debt ceiling issue on the 17th. speaker boehner was reluctant to say he wants to play with this, the default issue, at least yesterday, appearing with george stephanopoulos. it doesn't seem as if he's talking that way but everybody is pushing him that way. >> reporter: john boehner's -- if you take the republican party into two and have the tea party red blooded meat crowd and country club free market crowd, he's a part of the latter. plastics company from ohio, millionaire that lives on a golf course. he doesn't want to see the united states default on its debt. that's a lot of folks i'm sure close to him have called and said not to let it happen. a lot of concern among the establishment and those folks on wall street about house republicans playing with the debt limit idea. the problem is as we said all along, there's a group that doesn't want to see that go up. but everyone thinkds that john boehner would never in a million years let the united states default. you've seen goldman sachs, which i'm sure you saw whe
we're in, shutdown mode, fastly and quickly approaching the debt ceiling issue on the 17th. speaker boehner was reluctant to say he wants to play with this, the default issue, at least yesterday, appearing with george stephanopoulos. it doesn't seem as if he's talking that way but everybody is pushing him that way. >> reporter: john boehner's -- if you take the republican party into two and have the tea party red blooded meat crowd and country club free market crowd, he's a part of the...
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. >> meanwhile we're in this bill big limbo discussion with the debt ceiling debate again and with the aca and open enrollment taking place and issues on the website, do you feel there's a white hot spotlight now directed on health and human services secretary kathleen sebelius. she agreed now to testify this week before a congressional committee and people will want to see someone acknowledge the problems and own up to them and potentially take the fall for it. >> well, thomas, i think our focus now needs to be making sure we get the system up and running. i hope that's what secretary sebelius is focused on. there will be time later to try to do a reretrospective and lessons for the future. but right now we need that surge the president is talking about. we need to make sure millions of americans have the ability to finally access this affordable health care. you were talking earlier about the reaction senator cruz got back in texas. i think the question for the house republicans going forward is not whether senator cruz or tea party republicans in the house have learned the lesson th
. >> meanwhile we're in this bill big limbo discussion with the debt ceiling debate again and with the aca and open enrollment taking place and issues on the website, do you feel there's a white hot spotlight now directed on health and human services secretary kathleen sebelius. she agreed now to testify this week before a congressional committee and people will want to see someone acknowledge the problems and own up to them and potentially take the fall for it. >> well, thomas, i...
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and we hope that there will be some kind of resolution before we hit this disastrous debt ceiling. thank you, sir. >> thank you, martin. >>> coming up, the great american middle. it exists, regardless of what washington may have you believe. and jeffrey saks will join us to discuss that in just a moment. ♪ here i am stuck in the middle with you ♪ ♪ yes i'm stuck in the middle with you ♪ color, and design. showing up where we least expect it. and taking inspiration from our wildest dreams. because kohler doesn't see the world in fixtures and faucets. it reimagines. coloring our lives in ways only bold could do, it's no wonder the world can't wait to see what kohler does next. ♪ (announcer) answer the call of the grill with new friskies grillers, full of meaty tenders and crunchy bites. (dad) just feather it out. (son) ok. feather it out. (dad) all right. that's ok. (dad) put it in second, put it in second. (dad) slow it down. put the clutch in, break it, break it. (dad) just like i showed you. dad, you didn't show me, you showed him. dad, he's gonna wreck the car! (dad) he
and we hope that there will be some kind of resolution before we hit this disastrous debt ceiling. thank you, sir. >> thank you, martin. >>> coming up, the great american middle. it exists, regardless of what washington may have you believe. and jeffrey saks will join us to discuss that in just a moment. ♪ here i am stuck in the middle with you ♪ ♪ yes i'm stuck in the middle with you ♪ color, and design. showing up where we least expect it. and taking inspiration from...
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ceiling with respect to the issue that drives the long-term debt and maybe there were specific pieces that were attainable. the re350e8 of the medical device tax. this issue was side tracked by the folks in the senate and a few dozen members of the house who want to fund the health care law. i and many others say it would only lead to a government shut down and the health care law would fund it. >> it sounds like you think the health care position is a reasonable one. short-term clean on everything and sit down and talk during that period of time. >> i think the president has to start talking and negotiating. he cannot pretend to be a spectator. that said, i believe we must pass a short-term bridge for 30 days and a 30-day debt ceiling increase. clean. that's where this may lead. i'm prepared to support that too, but that could be where we are going and that could break the log jack and we can talk. i wanted to say one thing. i have been working with representative ron and a group of republicans and democrats. to try to really break it by making a reasonable suggestion. fund the gover
ceiling with respect to the issue that drives the long-term debt and maybe there were specific pieces that were attainable. the re350e8 of the medical device tax. this issue was side tracked by the folks in the senate and a few dozen members of the house who want to fund the health care law. i and many others say it would only lead to a government shut down and the health care law would fund it. >> it sounds like you think the health care position is a reasonable one. short-term clean on...
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ceiling, do something like that. i think the american people would be well behind getting rid of the cycle of kris ease -- >> some of them. >> the senate has never been the issue here. here we're talking about a deal that could happen, this i think will between mcconnell and reid and then it has to go through the house. we know these few members are never going to budge. what does boehner do? at what point does he break? if mcconnell says i have to leave you behind and do what's right for the country, that might be a turning point for boehner, or i've come this far for you guys but we've got to do the right thing for the country. what is the role for democrats? they are in a huge position of leverage. republicans are getting the blame, rightfully so. big push forward something harsh or give in. what is the right strategy for democrats leading into the mid-terms that give them this extra strength to win a few extra seats. >> i wouldn't look to mitch mcconnell to be our leader out of this when he's in a fairly difficul
ceiling, do something like that. i think the american people would be well behind getting rid of the cycle of kris ease -- >> some of them. >> the senate has never been the issue here. here we're talking about a deal that could happen, this i think will between mcconnell and reid and then it has to go through the house. we know these few members are never going to budge. what does boehner do? at what point does he break? if mcconnell says i have to leave you behind and do what's...
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ceiling, these other issues. they're trying to back away now and blame this on the president. i don't think it's going to work. >> and basically with john boehner saying they are not on board with anything the president has to do agenda wise. a minimum wage hike is basically d.o.a. >> that's probably right. i just don't think that a hike in the minimum wage will pass, you know, the house of representatives today. but at the end of the day, the president was right. they deserve a vote. working families around this country deserve a vote. and if you vote against the minimum wage, you ought to be able to go back home and defend it before your constituents. >> great to see you this morning, thanks for joining me. >> thanks for having me. >> absolutely. >>> coming up next, he was the first double amputee to run in the olympics, but the man known as the blade runner is a suspect in a murder. >>> and it's a new segment we kicked off this week. today's pick comes from the spirit of valentine's day, why it's a good reason
ceiling, these other issues. they're trying to back away now and blame this on the president. i don't think it's going to work. >> and basically with john boehner saying they are not on board with anything the president has to do agenda wise. a minimum wage hike is basically d.o.a. >> that's probably right. i just don't think that a hike in the minimum wage will pass, you know, the house of representatives today. but at the end of the day, the president was right. they deserve a...
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, battles over government shutdowns and debt ceiling programs but their solutions were entirely different. when it came to raising the debt ceiling, chris matthews writes, speaker o'neill made a request. he wanted top liaison to relay back to his boss precisely what the deal would be that he, tip o'neill, wanted a personal note from each and every member of the house asking his or her support in the debt ceiling. he agreed on the spot and carried it back to reagan. he asked for letters arrived the next day, all 243 of them. it was a small, telling episode. here was the democratic congressional leader proposing a wholly pragmatic soocease-fire. o'neill proposed avoiding harm to either party. with the federal government closed for business and a default on america's credit in a few weeks, chris matthews offers a look back and path forward. chris, congratulations. >> thank you. >> it could not come at a more important time. >> i worked there six years. it's sort of my material. the one part in my life i was at the berlin wall, in south africa when they had the election there. i was with this
, battles over government shutdowns and debt ceiling programs but their solutions were entirely different. when it came to raising the debt ceiling, chris matthews writes, speaker o'neill made a request. he wanted top liaison to relay back to his boss precisely what the deal would be that he, tip o'neill, wanted a personal note from each and every member of the house asking his or her support in the debt ceiling. he agreed on the spot and carried it back to reagan. he asked for letters arrived...
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become a part of the larger conversation related to the debt ceiling. we've been saying that day by day and it's becoming more and more evident that they are looking for a way, republicans are looking for a way on the house side to see if they can take in the larger issues. now democrats from the white house to the senate are saying, we'd be happy to talk about that, but not until -- the difficulty would be republicans still say they do not see a way for the speaker to bring forward a vote on opening up all aspects of the government without dealing with the healthcare law. that sounds faliar, doesn't it? that's pretty much where we were at the beginning of the week. it was a challenge. once of the differences today is that the house has voted to deal with federal workers' pay, giving them back pay for the days missed. while the white house has said it wouldn't do any of that piecemeal approach, it is acknowledging as it did with military pay that it would support that action. so that's giving republicans an opening to say, well, that's a piece you would
become a part of the larger conversation related to the debt ceiling. we've been saying that day by day and it's becoming more and more evident that they are looking for a way, republicans are looking for a way on the house side to see if they can take in the larger issues. now democrats from the white house to the senate are saying, we'd be happy to talk about that, but not until -- the difficulty would be republicans still say they do not see a way for the speaker to bring forward a vote on...
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that said where they prioritize raising debt ceiling behind other issues is another question. and i think for some of them defunding obama care in particular is a more important issue. getting something as one congressman said last week without defining what the something was is more important. so -- >> they don't want to be disrespected, jonathan, you can get that, right? why not hold the whole country hostage and credit rating, it's all about respect at the end of the day. you were writing about the conventional shutdown wisdom that wasn't. a lot of people were very confident how this was going to play out and you're pointing out it hasn't played out the way many predicted. one piece of that is conventional wisdom was the house gop is ruled by wall street, once wall street got upset they would have to make a deal. we haven't seen that yet, but do you think the dynamic might change. the "washington post" is reporting tea party congressman could be potentially facing a primary not from the right, not from the further right tea party but from a governance establishment that act
that said where they prioritize raising debt ceiling behind other issues is another question. and i think for some of them defunding obama care in particular is a more important issue. getting something as one congressman said last week without defining what the something was is more important. so -- >> they don't want to be disrespected, jonathan, you can get that, right? why not hold the whole country hostage and credit rating, it's all about respect at the end of the day. you were...
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ceiling. so we're looking at a couple weeks window where we can get immigration reform back on the front burner. even though the situation may not look so good -- >> hold on one second, we have john boehner coming on right now. >> we've spent the last hour and a half meeting with our members. that's pretty clear what our members want is fairness for the american people. the president provided a one-year delay of the employer mandate and provided exceptions for unions and others, there's even an exception for members of congress. we believe that everyone should be treated favirly. we're going to move in the next several hours to take the senate bill add to it a one-year delay of the individual mandate on the american people and get rid of the exemption for members of congress. it's a matter of fairness for all americans. >> the house is going to take a position today reflecting one very fundamental principle that our country stands for, no special treatment for anyone. as speaker indicated, thi
ceiling. so we're looking at a couple weeks window where we can get immigration reform back on the front burner. even though the situation may not look so good -- >> hold on one second, we have john boehner coming on right now. >> we've spent the last hour and a half meeting with our members. that's pretty clear what our members want is fairness for the american people. the president provided a one-year delay of the employer mandate and provided exceptions for unions and others,...
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. >> the debt ceiling is the real issue that i think all sides recognize has even more painful impact in the world than what we're seeing now with the government shutdown. so one scenario could be we get closer to that point if there is some trust. that's going to be a big, big if. if they can put together some trust to begin serious conversations about dealing with the debt ceiling, looking at long-term debt problems in the country, having those conversations where a lot of things are on the table and these are not easy asks in any way, then i think you could see there might be some willingness to at least get the lights on and that sort of thing. that's still days away, i think, from all the sources i'm talking to. so i think we're in a period now where both sides want to always have sort of the optics of looking engaged, offering ideas, even if the ideas aren't new, saying them in a new way today, and looking for that moment when there's a break. even if you do a whip count and find there are enough votes, the leadership still has to say they're going to go that way. we don't have
. >> the debt ceiling is the real issue that i think all sides recognize has even more painful impact in the world than what we're seeing now with the government shutdown. so one scenario could be we get closer to that point if there is some trust. that's going to be a big, big if. if they can put together some trust to begin serious conversations about dealing with the debt ceiling, looking at long-term debt problems in the country, having those conversations where a lot of things are on...
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it raises the debt ceiling until february 7th and it asks the house and senate to have the budget report by december 13th and it allows treasury to use extraordinary measures and adds income verification to obama care. the house republicans got nothing in the deal after picking this fight to try and defund obama care. >> do people realize that they don't work the way they want it to. >> it all depends where you're living. >> i'm going to say that i don't think anybody believes that when you stand and fight on principle that you lose. >> i would hope that we learn from the past and employ different strategies and tactics that would be more successful in the future? >> is it short-term damage? is it long-term damage? >> we'll see. >> i want to bring in our company, roll calls, politics and editor. clarence paige, columnist for the chicago tribune. >> i want to start with some of the reflections that speaker boehner had in a radio interview yesterday afternoon. take a listen. >> we fought the good fight. we just didn't win. >> we fought the good fight. there's just no reason for our members
it raises the debt ceiling until february 7th and it asks the house and senate to have the budget report by december 13th and it allows treasury to use extraordinary measures and adds income verification to obama care. the house republicans got nothing in the deal after picking this fight to try and defund obama care. >> do people realize that they don't work the way they want it to. >> it all depends where you're living. >> i'm going to say that i don't think anybody believes...
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. >>> if washington can't reach a deal on the debt ceiling, wall street might force the issue. features are down triple-digits and the closer we get to thursday without an agreement, the more pressure the markets are like low to put on washington. roger wicker is the republican deputy and a member of the budget committee. good morning to you. >> happy columbus day to you, chuck. >> let me start with the status of the talks. what part of the plan do you not like and what part do you think you can accept? >> i like the collins plan, but i'm reluctant to negotiate in public. i think we have a process going between the senate leaders and i'm hopeful we can have something meaningful by the end of the day. i like repeal of the medical device tax better than delay. i think we are in the ballpark. it's real iistic and involves snag is worked from. what is unrealistic is this idea of exceeding the spending caps. if that is part of what harry reid is asking for, we are in for a long seat. if defunding obama care is an overreach for republicans, exceeding the spending caps that have lower
. >>> if washington can't reach a deal on the debt ceiling, wall street might force the issue. features are down triple-digits and the closer we get to thursday without an agreement, the more pressure the markets are like low to put on washington. roger wicker is the republican deputy and a member of the budget committee. good morning to you. >> happy columbus day to you, chuck. >> let me start with the status of the talks. what part of the plan do you not like and what...
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i would hope that after we have a clean vote on the continuing resolution and raising the debt ceiling, he would assign someone to a conference committee so we can then work out the issues we have in regard to the budget and not -- run our government by continuing resolutions but come up with a budget that will be more long-term so we don't have this kind of craziness going on again. >> from your lips to god's ears. congressman gregory meeks, thank you so much. >> my pleasure. >>> coming up, senate leaders try to reach an agreement, but not if this confederacy of dunces had anything to say about it. >> we are now ruled, quote, unquote, by a president who bows down to ala. ♪ dad! dad! katy perry is coming to town. can we get tickets, pleeeeease??? tickets? hmm, sure. how many? well, there's hannah, maddie, jen, sara m., sara b., sa -- whoa, whoa. hold on. (under his breath) here it comes... we can't forget about your older sister! thank you, thank you, thank you! seriously? what? i get 2x the thankyou points on each ticket. can i come? yep. the citi thankyou preferred card. now earn 2
i would hope that after we have a clean vote on the continuing resolution and raising the debt ceiling, he would assign someone to a conference committee so we can then work out the issues we have in regard to the budget and not -- run our government by continuing resolutions but come up with a budget that will be more long-term so we don't have this kind of craziness going on again. >> from your lips to god's ears. congressman gregory meeks, thank you so much. >> my pleasure....
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whether it was the 2011 issues when i was there in regards to the budget issues and the debt ceiling. and then we had a sequestration. a lot of these -- there was an issue earlier in the year about military kids missing the first five days of school this year. we've been tossed around like a political chip for a very long time. that's why we struck back so hard with the ad from the world war ii veteran says i've never seen this stuff in my lifetime. some stuff has to be above reproach. the federal government and using the federal government as some type of bargaining chip, there's real effects on people on active duty who could get their deployment extended because we're not training people to take them over. your benefits of a veteran when they return home. these aren't issues we should be using as a bargaining chip. >> two days before he was killed in afghanistan one of the service members whose death benefits got caught up in this whole thing wrote this on his facebook page. i'll read it to you. it says, quote, jesus! make up your minds. i will protect the being of my country with
whether it was the 2011 issues when i was there in regards to the budget issues and the debt ceiling. and then we had a sequestration. a lot of these -- there was an issue earlier in the year about military kids missing the first five days of school this year. we've been tossed around like a political chip for a very long time. that's why we struck back so hard with the ad from the world war ii veteran says i've never seen this stuff in my lifetime. some stuff has to be above reproach. the...
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i think the biggest issue is really the length of a debt ceiling extension and the length of a cr. this is a very general statement. but generally speaking, i think republicans would like debt ceiling extension and continuing resolution funding of government that allows the sequester to kick in and take us to lower spending levels democrats would like the reverse to occur. i do believe something soon on the floor. whether tonight or tomorrow, i know the two leaders are talking. i know they are constructive. i think we may get there. the wild card is what happens when an instrument like this gets to the house of representatives. >> one of the issues is whether or not the new sequester levels should be extended, which are ready to kick in. as you know there are democrats and people in the white house not happy about the sequester level. also the timing. is there some way to cut this in half and figure out how long a debt ceiling extension makes sense so we're not facing this again in a couple of weeks? >> i do think there will be an agreement. andrea, lets be clear. where republicans
i think the biggest issue is really the length of a debt ceiling extension and the length of a cr. this is a very general statement. but generally speaking, i think republicans would like debt ceiling extension and continuing resolution funding of government that allows the sequester to kick in and take us to lower spending levels democrats would like the reverse to occur. i do believe something soon on the floor. whether tonight or tomorrow, i know the two leaders are talking. i know they are...
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but long term on this debt ceiling issue, we need some structural changes in our mandatory spending to get us to a better place in terms of future generations and the burden of debt that we're placing on them. >> when we speak about where we are with the budget situation and the shutdown in and of itself, those were agreed upon numbers. that sequestration level numbers. so aren't we -- haven't both sides already agreed on where we need to be for the budget, and now we then need to move past that to get to the debt ceiling issue, but this hurdle of getting over the budget is just the sticking pin being obama care? >> well, there are policy issues that need to be ironed out. we are where we are, and i don't think either side is going to totally abandon their position. i can just say from a republican standpoint we're not going to come away from this series of negotiations with nothing. and we don't expect the democrats to either. there needs to be give and take. and there are issues involving obama care where there is widespread agreement among the american people and also among republic
but long term on this debt ceiling issue, we need some structural changes in our mandatory spending to get us to a better place in terms of future generations and the burden of debt that we're placing on them. >> when we speak about where we are with the budget situation and the shutdown in and of itself, those were agreed upon numbers. that sequestration level numbers. so aren't we -- haven't both sides already agreed on where we need to be for the budget, and now we then need to move...
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the debt ceiling was. >> fitch was looking at downgrading our credit rating, we saw this happen before. what was different this time? >> first of all, when the s&p downgraded the united states in july of 2011, there was always a equity sell-off but rates did not go up. everything people said would happen didn't happen. no matter what a few private rated agencies say, the world really does need u.s. treasury for the financial system to function right now. and unless we actually do default systemically, it doesn't matter what the agencies say. and that is what the world does, whether or not there's faith in our credibility. >> let me bring you in. a lot of people don't have faith in government. we know consumer confidence needs to be high for this recovery to continue. president has referred to it as being slow but it is certainly there. the housing market, for example, has been doing incredibly well considering all things considered there. but this was one of the things that would have been risky if we had gone into default. >> yeah, well, obviously because if we go into default and the
the debt ceiling was. >> fitch was looking at downgrading our credit rating, we saw this happen before. what was different this time? >> first of all, when the s&p downgraded the united states in july of 2011, there was always a equity sell-off but rates did not go up. everything people said would happen didn't happen. no matter what a few private rated agencies say, the world really does need u.s. treasury for the financial system to function right now. and unless we actually...
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in the way he's managing this issue. >> yes. he has -- well, he has said all along he wants to negotiate in his words the whole thing at once, and the closer the two deadlines come or the closer the debt ceiling deadline comes with the government still shut down, the more plausible it seems we resolve both things at once. >> goldie, since speaker boehner has had such a miserable time -- i mean, people talk about him, people who know him, say that he is a man who likes to do deals. he wants to serve the nation. he has been at war with this lunatic fringe of his party. they're about to force the country to crash against the debt ceiling. why doesn't he just give up the job? why doesn't he just step down honorably and say, i cannot stand working for these people anymore, because their intention is not good for this nation? >> you know, i don't know speaker boehner. and i'm not inclined to take the charitable or less charitable view. but every piece of evidence that we have seen runs contrary to that. he is, in fact, very willing to
in the way he's managing this issue. >> yes. he has -- well, he has said all along he wants to negotiate in his words the whole thing at once, and the closer the two deadlines come or the closer the debt ceiling deadline comes with the government still shut down, the more plausible it seems we resolve both things at once. >> goldie, since speaker boehner has had such a miserable time -- i mean, people talk about him, people who know him, say that he is a man who likes to do deals....
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the longer this debate over the debt ceiling and government shutdown goes on, the less time we have for other things like immigration reform and other issues. >> let's talk about immigration reform here. i want to show viewers at home a map that is quite telling. deportations in this country have increased dramatically since 2001. that's when a little more than a 100,000 immigrants. here's the map. 100,000 immigrants in 2001 deported. in 2012, more than 400,000 immigrants, undocumented immigrants were deported with immigration reform as you put it as a virtual stand still in congress. how real is the possibility that the longer this goes on, president obama loses the sway that he has right now with this vital constituency for democrats. >> it's absolutely a very real risk for him because the fact is no matter what he has done on behalf of the immigrant community and latino voters, he still holds the record for number of deportations going on in our communities. that is something that the proreform supporters are very concerned about. every one of these numbers, that represents families
the longer this debate over the debt ceiling and government shutdown goes on, the less time we have for other things like immigration reform and other issues. >> let's talk about immigration reform here. i want to show viewers at home a map that is quite telling. deportations in this country have increased dramatically since 2001. that's when a little more than a 100,000 immigrants. here's the map. 100,000 immigrants in 2001 deported. in 2012, more than 400,000 immigrants, undocumented...
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are we going to face this again on february 6th as we go into the next deadline on the debt ceiling? >> i hope not. we are pleased with what's happened in the senate. they came to terms and convinced the speaker that we should take this up in the house, which is something we've been suggesting for a while. it's really a sad state of affairs, that government would be shutdown now for 16 days, that the full faith and credit of the united states of america would be in doubt, even for a moment. so it has taken its toll. what could come out of it is however enthusiastic we are about our issues and our point of view, that we don't hold the government hostage and the full faith and credit of the united states hostage. i think that hopefully that lesson was learned. it shouldn't have been anything that needed to be learned, but hopefully we've crossed that. the american people are fully aware of the consequences. >> this is basically a clean continuing resolution. why do you think john boehner did not bring it to the floor 16 days ago? >> i don't know. you really would have to ask him. i thi
are we going to face this again on february 6th as we go into the next deadline on the debt ceiling? >> i hope not. we are pleased with what's happened in the senate. they came to terms and convinced the speaker that we should take this up in the house, which is something we've been suggesting for a while. it's really a sad state of affairs, that government would be shutdown now for 16 days, that the full faith and credit of the united states of america would be in doubt, even for a...
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he has said all along he will not allow there not to be an increase in the debt ceiling. that is something that is prudent. he's concerned about the markets, as we all are. i think the real issue at the table is what goes beyond this. this is a temporary fix. we need to be addressing the longer issue and that's the out of control spending. if you're taking in two and a half trillion but spending three and a half trillion, you have a problem. we have a $60 trillion unfunded mandates. this has to be addressed. >> why isn't anybody addressing it, though? why is everybody so hamstrung over the aca, a law that was vetted by both houses of congress, that was sent up and vetted by the supreme court, that the president was re-elected on. it seems like the republicans have backed themselves into a corner over something that the people have spoken out that they are in favor for over and over again. that's why we're in the shutdown. but now we get pushed up as hostages, american hostages get pushed up to the debt ceiling and now we're getting warnings from wall street that we may go
he has said all along he will not allow there not to be an increase in the debt ceiling. that is something that is prudent. he's concerned about the markets, as we all are. i think the real issue at the table is what goes beyond this. this is a temporary fix. we need to be addressing the longer issue and that's the out of control spending. if you're taking in two and a half trillion but spending three and a half trillion, you have a problem. we have a $60 trillion unfunded mandates. this has to...
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so i think there is a lack of unity on fighting obama on the debt ceiling and they're really going to make their stand where they have been making it right now. >> and what's the temperature when we think about now we've got the military death benefits, the issue with that as we have these flag-draped coffins coming home today. both sides are posturing for who is on the right side of watching this part of our sad american history. but neither side really comes out smelling like a rose. and it's just a demeaning slap in the face to our american military families. >> well, to the american military families, to people who are relying on a whole range of government programs. sorry, there's -- somebody is coming in my ear, thomas. but the whole range of people from head start recipients to the people getting the women, infants and children nutrition program. so it's not just the troops, it's not just the families of the fallen, it's not just the veterans, it's everybody. and the republicans would like to have this strategy of sort of releasing one hostage at a time and i think the democrat
so i think there is a lack of unity on fighting obama on the debt ceiling and they're really going to make their stand where they have been making it right now. >> and what's the temperature when we think about now we've got the military death benefits, the issue with that as we have these flag-draped coffins coming home today. both sides are posturing for who is on the right side of watching this part of our sad american history. but neither side really comes out smelling like a rose....
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ceiling, small potatoes compared to that. >> here's my question for you, jim. and to move away from the kind of social issues and to litigate that and talk about economics here. you know, there was this period of time where republicans would describe themselves as pro-growth. this was this, you know, i'm a reagan republican, i'm a supply-sider, i believe in growth. and there's this famous quote from a conservative economist who says, once you start thinking about growth, it's hard to think about anything else. and i sit here and look at this economy. it's growing at 2 or 2.5 or 2.2% gdp. and i think, we need more growth. i want more growth. i want to see higher growth and lower employment. and here is the republican party, which was supposed to hold the mantle for growth, that used growth as their symbol, doing things that demonstrably retard growth, that affect growth. how do you understand that, jim? >> well, listen, there has been a pro-growth message, but unfortunately, it has not gotten beyond corporate taxes. but there has been an extreme focus on cutting
ceiling, small potatoes compared to that. >> here's my question for you, jim. and to move away from the kind of social issues and to litigate that and talk about economics here. you know, there was this period of time where republicans would describe themselves as pro-growth. this was this, you know, i'm a reagan republican, i'm a supply-sider, i believe in growth. and there's this famous quote from a conservative economist who says, once you start thinking about growth, it's hard to...
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we've seen this play through in the last debt ceiling, does this argument deal with immigration reform? >> what did we get for it? i went back to the democratic caucus and there were people looking at me cross-eyed, why are you hanging around with paul ryan, he's our enemy. more importantly, what did paul ryan get? he got hundreds of thousands of negative ads in his district, yet he is still standing up. let me tell you why. because you cannot simply ignore principle. and that is that there are men and women in the republican and democratic party who it is abhorrent to us to see what is going on. and if those values, that is the values of fairness, justice and good play in america, i think we can build a relationship. look, we don't need 218 republicans to do this. we need 45, 50 republicans to do it. they exist and my hope is that they will be able to go to the speaker and that they want to have a more moderate view and say, you know, it's our turn also to be able to work with the other side of the aisle. >> congressman, that is if the speaker does bring it to the floor. >> that's why
we've seen this play through in the last debt ceiling, does this argument deal with immigration reform? >> what did we get for it? i went back to the democratic caucus and there were people looking at me cross-eyed, why are you hanging around with paul ryan, he's our enemy. more importantly, what did paul ryan get? he got hundreds of thousands of negative ads in his district, yet he is still standing up. let me tell you why. because you cannot simply ignore principle. and that is that...
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let's move on to real issues and talk about the debt ceiling issue as well. >> you talked about accountability. is it possible that boehner is saying, look, i don't want everyone to show up. if they do, the president can say hey, everybody, let's take a quick vote right now. who is for stopping this shutdown and then there you have it? it's a done deal. >> you couldn't really do that in the chamber. it would be unofficial. >> at least we get an idea where everyone stands. >> they want to be with one voice. the more people in the room, the last chance of speaking with one voice. i think that's more it. you don't want any dissension. that's our problem now. the o two sides don't have any commonality. two different armies almost. >>> a lot of politics are going to take a hit because of this. we look at the latest polls, the favorability rating for the gop is the lowest on record. so is this political suicide for some politicians if they don't get their acts together and stop this shutdown? >> there's a major election coming up this november, i'd say yes. but there's enough time -- >> you think pe
let's move on to real issues and talk about the debt ceiling issue as well. >> you talked about accountability. is it possible that boehner is saying, look, i don't want everyone to show up. if they do, the president can say hey, everybody, let's take a quick vote right now. who is for stopping this shutdown and then there you have it? it's a done deal. >> you couldn't really do that in the chamber. it would be unofficial. >> at least we get an idea where everyone stands....
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ceiling issue. so we'll see but depending on how far this goes, we could be looking at some real electoral movement because of this. >> ester -- >> i'm sorry for not getting too far off the shutdown. >> you just taught me something new. overlooked and underplayed. i didn't know that. what else did i not know? >> definitely overlooked, so actually on friday adrian patterson who plays for the vikings, his son was killed and the young man charged with his killing has a history of domestic violence. october is awareness month. this is the month supposed to be about raising awareness around the degree to which intimate partner violence, women are killed, beaten, assaulted and there is a connection between that and the economy. violence has an economy. and the legacy of the 2008 collapse, the legacy of sequestration is shelters closing. not to say ceos and unfortunately beat women, too. it's sadly an equal opportunity crime. but the degree to which it's being underlooked, underplayed and not discussed is
ceiling issue. so we'll see but depending on how far this goes, we could be looking at some real electoral movement because of this. >> ester -- >> i'm sorry for not getting too far off the shutdown. >> you just taught me something new. overlooked and underplayed. i didn't know that. what else did i not know? >> definitely overlooked, so actually on friday adrian patterson who plays for the vikings, his son was killed and the young man charged with his killing has a...
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the bill represents a huge deescalation on the debt ceiling issue. it hands the president his second major win in a month. and it shows that republicans are in full on retreat on fiscal policy. >> meanwhile, speaker boehner offering his interpretation of president obama's inauguration speech and what he sees as the president's two agenda for the second term. >> we're expecting over the next 22 months to be the focus of this administration as they attempt to annihilate the republican party. and let me just tell you, i do believe that is their goal. to just shove us into the dust bin of history. >> the pentagon today is set to announce a major policy shift involving women in the military. women will now be allowed to serve in full combat roles. that could potentially include elite commando units and positions directly in the line of fire. nbc chief pentagon correspondent has more on the ground breaking announcement. >> reporter: for the past ten years, u.s. military women have served at the front lines in both iraq and afghanistan. but never allowed in
the bill represents a huge deescalation on the debt ceiling issue. it hands the president his second major win in a month. and it shows that republicans are in full on retreat on fiscal policy. >> meanwhile, speaker boehner offering his interpretation of president obama's inauguration speech and what he sees as the president's two agenda for the second term. >> we're expecting over the next 22 months to be the focus of this administration as they attempt to annihilate the republican...
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raising the debt ceiling, the s&p issued a statement last night saying, "this sort of political brinksmanship is the dominant reason the rating is no longer aaa." downgraded the u.s. government's debt in 2011 from aaa to aa-plus. joe, we listened to at the top of the hour speaker boehner, at the 11th hour, 1:00 in the morning, saying, you know what, maybe we ought to go to conference and talk this out. my question is why did they just realize at 1:00 in the morning they could go to conference and talk this out? >> wait till the debt ceiling fight comes up. they'll all noorch the edge of the cliff and the night before they'll get calls from ceos and wall street leaders and they're going to say, you can't default on america's debt because it's going to cause all these economic consequences, and they're going to act like it's the first time they ever heard it in their life. >>> coming up on "morning joe," will president obama come to the table to end the shutdown? we'll talk to white house press secretary jay carney and one republican who's been against obamacare but against a shutdown. arizona
raising the debt ceiling, the s&p issued a statement last night saying, "this sort of political brinksmanship is the dominant reason the rating is no longer aaa." downgraded the u.s. government's debt in 2011 from aaa to aa-plus. joe, we listened to at the top of the hour speaker boehner, at the 11th hour, 1:00 in the morning, saying, you know what, maybe we ought to go to conference and talk this out. my question is why did they just realize at 1:00 in the morning they could go...
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ceiling. i think that medical device tax is one to watch. they are inching closer to a deal. clearly no deal at this hour, steve. >> one quick follow-up question in terms of let's say something like this, let's say this ends up being the basic framework, into this budget negotiation process we would plan over the next few weeks or months, i'm thinking back over the last three years, republicans running the house and the white house and senate, these budget negotiation haven't gone anywhere. there are fundamental issues they won't budge on like revenue. is there any reason to think going into this could yield a different result the time? >> reporter: well, i had the same reaction you have. i think all of us in washington covering these budget battles are scratching our heads and saying how will this outcome be any different? one thing is some of the things potentially on the table are things that president obama had said he could support before, entitlement reforms, for example. choongs for med
ceiling. i think that medical device tax is one to watch. they are inching closer to a deal. clearly no deal at this hour, steve. >> one quick follow-up question in terms of let's say something like this, let's say this ends up being the basic framework, into this budget negotiation process we would plan over the next few weeks or months, i'm thinking back over the last three years, republicans running the house and the white house and senate, these budget negotiation haven't gone...
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complicating matters further, what to do on the health care act and address the debt ceiling also looming once again. >> shutting down the government just because i'm for keeping it open, that's not an economic plan. threatening that you won't pay the bills in this country when we've already racked up those bills, that's not an economic plan. >> all right. so what's the solution. predicted short-term spending revolution that funds the government through, say, mid november. but he argues that's just the beginning. quote, that first short-term c.r. then most likely will be followed by a combination of a second continuing resolution and debt ceiling suspension that only lasts until the middle of january so that all three fiscal deadlines, government funding, debt limit and sequester come together. guess what, it's a new fiscal cliff that only will roil markets and politics again. another day in the life of u.s. congress. stan as i've been telling you is an expert on the federal budget and one of the few people who worked on the staffs of the house and senate budget. for years he wrote the gu
complicating matters further, what to do on the health care act and address the debt ceiling also looming once again. >> shutting down the government just because i'm for keeping it open, that's not an economic plan. threatening that you won't pay the bills in this country when we've already racked up those bills, that's not an economic plan. >> all right. so what's the solution. predicted short-term spending revolution that funds the government through, say, mid november. but he...
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raising the debt ceiling being used to extort a president or a governing party and trying to force issues that have nothing to do with the budget and have nothing to do with the debt. >> even karl rove in an opinion piece today if you saw it is arguing that this is a bad idea. going down that road would strengthen the president while alienating independents. and it is an ill-conceived tactic and are there any that can lead them back to where there could be some kind of deal or compromise? >> i think you saw the president meeting yesterday with business leaders and those are traditionally ally -- business leaders traditionally allied with republicans and that's where you feel like a lot of the pressure is going come in ultimately especially with those moderate conservatives and then a lot of those conservatives who rely on funding and a donor base of business folks. i think that's where the pressure is going to come ultimately, but i do think that they'll have something to crow about, some of these tea party republicans in the house because they will be able to vote for defunding obama car
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campaign to exploit the wrangling over the fiscal cliff, the debt ceiling and the sequester, the misinformation campaign has worked. a bloomberg poll on the size of america's budget deficit shows 62% of americans think the deficit is getting bigger. 28% of americans think that it's staying the same. and get this number, only 6% agree with the truth. my friends, the deficit is shrinking. the congressional budget office says the deficit is down to $845 billion. it is projected to be $600 billion less than when the president took office. americans need to break out of this misinformation loop, don't you think? if they want to listen to a republican, maybe they should try listening to outgoing transportation secretary ray lahood. he spoke about the sequester consequences today, including the loss of 100 air traffic controllers. >> this requires compromise. this requires republicans stepping forward with some ideas about how to keep essential services of government running at the level that people have been accustomed to. this is not rocket science. >> well, it's not rocket science. but, folks, it i
campaign to exploit the wrangling over the fiscal cliff, the debt ceiling and the sequester, the misinformation campaign has worked. a bloomberg poll on the size of america's budget deficit shows 62% of americans think the deficit is getting bigger. 28% of americans think that it's staying the same. and get this number, only 6% agree with the truth. my friends, the deficit is shrinking. the congressional budget office says the deficit is down to $845 billion. it is projected to be $600 billion...
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one of which it is john boehner get a clean debt ceiling bill through the house with a majority of republican votes. we know he can get one with the majority of democratic votes, does he want to do that. and, two, does the white house seem could be signaling, yes, president obama would sign a clean debt ceiling increase. but, no, he will not promise in exchange for that signature a broader negotiation on the government shutdown and larger budgetary issues. so the meeting at 4:30 this afternoon between those 18 members of the house delegation and the president is going to be critically important what comes out of that. but the cake does not seem to me, at least, to be baked on this yet. >> but they're sort of stirring the dough, getting it ready. getting the batter ready to put in the oven. >> which is more -- i don't want to extend this metaphor too far but it's certainly more than we had a few days ago, frankly. >> and he's meeting with the democrats tomorrow. of course, we know the drivers are the house republicans. and the final debate last night got heated. let me play a little bit of cor
one of which it is john boehner get a clean debt ceiling bill through the house with a majority of republican votes. we know he can get one with the majority of democratic votes, does he want to do that. and, two, does the white house seem could be signaling, yes, president obama would sign a clean debt ceiling increase. but, no, he will not promise in exchange for that signature a broader negotiation on the government shutdown and larger budgetary issues. so the meeting at 4:30 this afternoon...
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ceiling issue is there. trying to sort of shift the rhetoric so it isn't all about, which republicans are trying to frame it, hey, the president won't negotiate, the president trying to push back on that talking point. i'm more than willing to negotiate just not under these preconditions that republicans want. i think it's notable you see a different tone and a little bit different emphasis on this second week. it tells me that perhaps some of the republican talking points beating him up collectively on the idea he's not willing to negotiate is something they felt the need they had to push back on. >> chris cillizza, the logical negotiation would be accept sequester levels, something close to sequester levels for more than six weeks, accept the sequester levels going forward, which is what the the republicans want and put something on the table in terms of entitlement reform, which the president without on the table in his own budget. to adjust sequester level and entitlement reforms to come up with budget s
ceiling issue is there. trying to sort of shift the rhetoric so it isn't all about, which republicans are trying to frame it, hey, the president won't negotiate, the president trying to push back on that talking point. i'm more than willing to negotiate just not under these preconditions that republicans want. i think it's notable you see a different tone and a little bit different emphasis on this second week. it tells me that perhaps some of the republican talking points beating him up...
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on the debt ceiling issue, rarely do you get a clean debt ceiling. the president has to deal on that and they node to talk and figure out what to do. >> does boehner figure out what he wants. that keeps changing. >> if you talk not in public, you don't announce meetings and you go back and forth. i think there will be enough frustrated republicans at this point that you will be able to get something on the floor and think that boehner will put something on the floor at that point and not worry about what majority said. >> you cared about the deficit and you know what to negotiate on which is the debt ceiling. this document should be about the budget and the republicans are not putting anything out there. >> they have not gotten how much they want the debt limit raised. they have not done it that way before there was a specific amount. one would presume boehner wants the debt limit raised before 2014. he now in the same way that the president wanted that went past november 2012. putting out a number if he had a specific number in mind, that you negoti
on the debt ceiling issue, rarely do you get a clean debt ceiling. the president has to deal on that and they node to talk and figure out what to do. >> does boehner figure out what he wants. that keeps changing. >> if you talk not in public, you don't announce meetings and you go back and forth. i think there will be enough frustrated republicans at this point that you will be able to get something on the floor and think that boehner will put something on the floor at that point...
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the previous debt ceiling standoff, one of the issues was when would the next debt ceiling be reached, annoy, remember the republicans -- and even harry reid suggested that they do this every six months, get a temporary extension and come back in six months. at one point the republicans were proposing three extensions, three votes before the next election. and the president, meeting with his own aides about this said that's it. i'm done. i'm not doing this. this is not how the constitution was meant -- was designed. our founding fathers did not envision a day when members of congress could hold the president hostage by not paying the bills they themselves had racked up. and as often happens in these situations, the cooler heads on his staff said, well, mr. president, we understand how you feel, but we may have to cut the -- no, i'm not going to do it. he was very firm because he believed it was not just affecting him but about preserving the status of the presidency for future presidents. and in the end one of the things he was most proud of in that deal was not giving in to that. but
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about the whole 14th amendment issue. we discussed last time the debt ceiling was at issue. what about indications that the president probably does have the power within the constitution to simply in effect raise the debt ceiling himself? i was a real, you know, interested fan of that idea. it was because it was novel. never seen it before. i didn't see anything wrong with it. the president thinks there is wrong with it. he made that clear today. talking about making, how would you feel if you were buying a house if you weren't sure of the title. let's listen. >> if you are buying a house and you are not sure whether the seller has title to the house you are going to be pretty nervous about buying it. and at minimum, you would want to -- a much -- cheaper price to buy that house because you wouldn't be sure whether or not you are going to on it. same thing is true, if i am buying treasury bills from the u.s. government. here i am sitting here, what if there is a supreme court case deciding that -- these aren't valid. these are -- you know, valid legal instruments. obligating
about the whole 14th amendment issue. we discussed last time the debt ceiling was at issue. what about indications that the president probably does have the power within the constitution to simply in effect raise the debt ceiling himself? i was a real, you know, interested fan of that idea. it was because it was novel. never seen it before. i didn't see anything wrong with it. the president thinks there is wrong with it. he made that clear today. talking about making, how would you feel if you...
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but the real dangerous issue that is looming out there is the question of default and the debt ceiling. and this notion that the country can default withimpunity, no consequences to that that you hear so many people mine party making that argument. just absolutely frightening. there will be profound consequences to the economy. politically, should that happen. i think as you look at the fights that are ahead. this government shuttle down, fight is simply the warm-up to the much deeper, much more serious fight that comes after that. and that's the default fight. >> howard dean, steve schmidt, eugene robinson. thank you all for joining me tonight. coming up. conservative scare tactics to try to stop young people from enrolling in obamacare. if obamacare is so bad, why do opponents have to lie about it to convince people to stay away from it? and john mccain answers vladamir putin's "the new york times" op-ed piece with a piece on a russian website. we now know the real author of the first novel wriflten by an african-american woman, written years ago by a recently escaped slave afraid to
but the real dangerous issue that is looming out there is the question of default and the debt ceiling. and this notion that the country can default withimpunity, no consequences to that that you hear so many people mine party making that argument. just absolutely frightening. there will be profound consequences to the economy. politically, should that happen. i think as you look at the fights that are ahead. this government shuttle down, fight is simply the warm-up to the much deeper, much...
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and then they found out the debt ceiling was the issue. they found out that the government had shut down and that there was no remedy in sight. so it really completely transformed the meeting in the last few days. >> help me understand from your point of view, managing director of the imf, international monetary fund, where you're providing aid to countries at risk around the globe, but you're also keeping an eye on the u.s. economy, the global economy. obviously there is a credibility issue for the united states here, but help me understand the actual economic shock that would result from us not raising this debt ceiling and being in a position where america can't pay all its bills on time? >> do you remember 2008, the beginning of the great recession? >> yes. >> well, if there was a combination of the government shutdown for a period of time and, more seriously, more damaging if the debt ceiling was not lifted with a degree of certainty and enough time so that people could sort of have the assurance that the economy was in good standing,
and then they found out the debt ceiling was the issue. they found out that the government had shut down and that there was no remedy in sight. so it really completely transformed the meeting in the last few days. >> help me understand from your point of view, managing director of the imf, international monetary fund, where you're providing aid to countries at risk around the globe, but you're also keeping an eye on the u.s. economy, the global economy. obviously there is a credibility...
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consequences if there is no resolution of the debt ceiling issue before then. so from what i'm hearing you say, is your strategy here, is your strategy to democrats to basically keep this posture, we are not negotiating on this at all and you believe that the political pressure will rise to a certain point that republicans will have to feel the debt -- >> that is the only strategy. now in the end, there is a majority as you said before, there is a majority in the house that would vote to end this right now. you have 20 or 25 republicans, which is more than enough that said publicly they would vote to pass the continuing resolution to fund the government for six weeks at the number which is their number, not the democratic number, which is a terrible number, by the way, one we can't live with, temporarily okay they would do this. there are two ways they can effect effectuate that. they can vote on -- or against the motion on the previous question. if that fails, then the democrats can put a clean cr on the house floor and they can soet for it or they can simply
consequences if there is no resolution of the debt ceiling issue before then. so from what i'm hearing you say, is your strategy here, is your strategy to democrats to basically keep this posture, we are not negotiating on this at all and you believe that the political pressure will rise to a certain point that republicans will have to feel the debt -- >> that is the only strategy. now in the end, there is a majority as you said before, there is a majority in the house that would vote to...
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where i think republicans thought especially since they put off the debt ceiling fight they'd be able to take control of this issue. >> let's play what mitch mcconnell said just yesterday slamming the democrats for floating new revenue proposals. >> this is just another opportunity to trot out the democrat focus group approved policy stunt. if this is another fake fight designed by the white house to push us to the brink, then republicans are really not interested in playing along. >> molly, another fake fight. as it was described by mitch mcconnell there. but we know when you look at polling and watched since the end of the year, the polls show it's republicans who come up short where people believe they're presenting the fake fight, at least some of the polling. >> well, it is interesting to hear mcconnell describe it as focus group approved. they believe public opinion on their side and if there is what is viewed as gridlock and dysfunction in washington, republicans are blamed by that. i think the white house concluded, looking back on the last four years, that every time republic
where i think republicans thought especially since they put off the debt ceiling fight they'd be able to take control of this issue. >> let's play what mitch mcconnell said just yesterday slamming the democrats for floating new revenue proposals. >> this is just another opportunity to trot out the democrat focus group approved policy stunt. if this is another fake fight designed by the white house to push us to the brink, then republicans are really not interested in playing along....
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ceiling, which is very much perceived as a wall street kind of global elite issues. republicans are jumping and handling that, while letting the government shutdown you know, conceivably, through thanksgiving. >> oh, there is no better illustration of the mechanisms of power within the american government and the republican party than what pressure was brought to bear. and who is powerful in this country. the women -- >> and that's potential harm that hasn't even been done yet. there is actual harm being done to millions of people a day. and that wasn't enough to change it. >> here's a question to you. what do you think, from your reporting, what is the feeling of harry reid, the senate democratic leadership, which is the key player in this, and the white house, about this idea that you just keep the government shutdown, but past this debt ceiling increase, because that essentially is some sop that cuts you off from the potential worst cataclysm, but you are then negotiating with the government still shutdown, which the president has reiterated, he does not want to d
ceiling, which is very much perceived as a wall street kind of global elite issues. republicans are jumping and handling that, while letting the government shutdown you know, conceivably, through thanksgiving. >> oh, there is no better illustration of the mechanisms of power within the american government and the republican party than what pressure was brought to bear. and who is powerful in this country. the women -- >> and that's potential harm that hasn't even been done yet....